6 Replies Latest reply on Jul 28, 2014 9:32 AM by davidg5700

    What are the benefits of a side-by-side upgrade to LDMS 9.6

    Apprentice

      Hello all,

       

      We are currently running LDMS 9.5 and we were looking into upgrade to 9.5.2, but yesterday 9.6 was released and we're also contemplating that as an upgrade path as well.  Because it has not been released for long I was thinking of performing a side-by-side upgrade, believing that it may be easier to test the new environment with a limited set of workstations and testing the provisioning templates, packages, tasks, agent settings, etc. and remove the current core server later.

       

      Does a side-by-side upgrade work in this manner?  Would I be able to do the following?

       

      Move individual workstations from old core to new core

      Test agent settings/tasks/packages/provisioning templates on new core

      Move individual workstations from new core to old core

      Retire old core when satisfied with new environment

       

      Any assistance would be appreciated, as not a lot of detail about side-by-side migrations are given in the new Best Known Methods document for LDMS 9.6.

        • 1. Re: What are the benefits of a side-by-side upgrade to LDMS 9.6
          davidg5700 Specialist

          I have always done side by side upgrades since starting with 8.8 and have done them in the manner you've laid out.

           

          I have migrated the clients to the new core by creating a self contained agent installer for the new core and pushing it to the clients from the old core to get them migrated.  There is always a small percentage of workstations that will continue to report to the old core that will have to be tracked down, so my old cores tend to hang around for a while before retiring.

           

          I was told there is a "Package Porter" utility that can be used to transfer distribution packages from one core to the next, but I have not used it.

           

          Good luck with your migration.

          • 2. Re: What are the benefits of a side-by-side upgrade to LDMS 9.6
            Apprentice

            Thank you.  It sounds that as long as 9.6 holds true to the migration methods you've used in the past I'll be just fine.

             

            So I can move workstations between cores for testing simply by pushing the different Agents?  That makes it easy and it gives me good control over which workstation is where.

             

            I'll have to look into the Package Porter and see if that will do it.  Otherwise I could always manually export and import them.

            • 3. Re: What are the benefits of a side-by-side upgrade to LDMS 9.6
              MarXtar ITSMMVPGroup

              The other benefit with a 9.6 side-by-side is the ability to get onto 2012 as the server OS.

               

              Mark McGinn

              MarXtar Ltd/MarXtar Corporation

              http://landeskone.marxtar.co.uk

              LANDESK One Development Partner

               

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              • 4. Re: What are the benefits of a side-by-side upgrade to LDMS 9.6
                zman Master

                One of the main benefits is that you can test and gradually migrate from one version of LANDESK to another while maintaining operational integrity of both versions of LANDESK. If you discover an issue with the newer version of LANDESK you can stop the migration and try to remediate the issue. If the issue is too large you can migrate them back to the legacy environment. As Mark and David have indicated you can also utilize new OS/DB/Hardware Technologies. Near the end you could use the certs from the legacy environment on the new environment and change DNS to point to the new server. This way the older clients will report to the new server and you can upgrade the client. The down side of this is that you will have to provide additional hardware, and will have to maintain two environments (patching, maint, etc...) until fully migrated.

                • 5. Re: What are the benefits of a side-by-side upgrade to LDMS 9.6
                  Apprentice

                  Thanks everyone.

                   

                  Managing two sets of hardware, patching, maintenance, etc. isn't really all that difficult for me since it is a short term environment until we test everything.  I really don't see any downside to doing a side-by-side installation at this time.  In fact, the pros seem to heavily outweigh the cons for me.  I have been a bit worried about the crunch time needed to test everything thoroughly enough with an in-place upgrade, but instead of sweating a whole weekend I can do it all in a week or two.  If we encounter any deal breakers I can just keep all the clients where they're at until there's a fix.  That's a bit different than rolling back an in-place upgrade where I would have to revert to previous snapshots and push the old agent out again.

                  • 6. Re: What are the benefits of a side-by-side upgrade to LDMS 9.6
                    davidg5700 Specialist

                    zman wrote:

                     

                    Near the end you could use the certs from the legacy environment on the new environment and change DNS to point to the new server. This way the older clients will report to the new server and you can upgrade the client.

                    zman,

                    I am curious about how this process would work.  Would you have to keep the same server name for the new server?  Is there anything out there documenting this process?

                    Thanks.